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May 3, 2023Liked by Caroline Cala Donofrio

So funny that some of my favorite newsletter authors are getting interviewed here at my other favorite subscription! What a nice surprise osmosis ❤️. Love paco’s newsletter and Leslie’s substack. Maybe Haley Nahman of maybe baby next? Or the OG that brought me to you, Caroline, Joanna Goddard?

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I'm so glad you are enjoying the overlap. Paco is the best. And yes! I love these suggestions. ❤️

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May 3, 2023Liked by Caroline Cala Donofrio

The National is always in heavy rotation and I've been making my way through their new album. I also read that article in the New Yorker and really appreciated Matt Berninger's vulnerability in how he shared about depression and his creative process. We see the finished products of these incredible artists, but the path towards it is often so heavy, unrelenting, tormented. I am really in awe of how close to the edge they came to breaking up, and what emerged instead. I've been thinking a lot about whether conflict and turmoil and suffering is necessary to create great art. I don't think it is. But I am grateful that artists who experience it are able to create so much beauty and meaning from darkness.

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Loved this interview! Can’t wait to check out everything she does.

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